1 00:00:03,990 --> 00:00:02,070 station this is houston are you ready 2 00:00:10,150 --> 00:00:04,000 for the event 3 00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:10,160 military times this is mission control 4 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:12,000 houston please call station for a voice 5 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:14,080 check 6 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:16,240 station this is military times how do 7 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:21,670 we have you loud and clear welcome 8 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:23,920 aboard the space station 9 00:00:29,189 --> 00:00:26,400 thank you very much for having us today 10 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:29,199 uh colonel copra it's been 30 years 11 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:32,320 since you graduated from west point 12 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:34,480 what would you tell the current class of 13 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:37,840 cadets about getting into a career in 14 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:44,470 you know that's a great question you 15 00:00:48,790 --> 00:00:46,160 know i don't think i quite envisioned 16 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:48,800 that uh i would have this job when i was 17 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,440 a cadet many years ago but uh one of the 18 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:53,840 great things about the west point 19 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:55,840 experience is that it's a great training 20 00:01:01,750 --> 00:00:58,879 ground for not just military service 21 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:01,760 and uh and the service i've had at nasa 22 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:03,760 but but life as well because it's a 23 00:01:07,910 --> 00:01:05,519 strong academic 24 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:07,920 uh physical and military preparation and 25 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:10,880 so for the young people that are at the 26 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:12,799 academies and particularly west point 27 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:15,280 one thing to consider is that uh you 28 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:16,000 know 29 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:17,920 in our job it's very technical and it's 30 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,520 very operational and those are important 31 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:21,840 things and important backgrounds to have 32 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:23,840 but at the end of the day 33 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:25,360 what we do is very similar to the 34 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:27,840 military in that it's a team sport and 35 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,759 being able to work as a team is the most 36 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:31,759 critical skill 37 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,000 for captain scott kelly you've been 38 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,640 aboard the station for just about a year 39 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:38,640 on the current expedition 40 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:41,360 how does that time in space compare to 41 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:52,710 yeah it's uh quite different um 42 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:55,840 i only i did one uh like six month 43 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,280 cruise on the uss dwight d eisenhower 44 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:01,759 and then uh a shorter 45 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:04,079 you know two to three month i think it 46 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:05,680 was two months uh on the george 47 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:08,160 washington a little shakedown cruise and 48 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,560 the difference is on uh 49 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:12,000 you know on the aircraft carrier there 50 00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:15,520 with 5 000 more than 5 000 other people 51 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:17,200 you have much more room you can go out 52 00:02:21,830 --> 00:02:20,000 on the flight deck get some fresh air 53 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,840 i was a pilot so i got to fly off the 54 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:23,920 ship we went into port occasionally not 55 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:26,319 too much but we did do that occasionally 56 00:02:28,630 --> 00:02:27,520 whereas here 57 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:28,640 um 58 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:35,200 it's a much more confined space and 59 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:36,800 but there are similarities i mean it's a 60 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:39,360 very operationally oriented environment 61 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,160 where 62 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:42,640 like tim was saying teamwork is uh is 63 00:02:47,589 --> 00:02:44,879 very important so 64 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:47,599 my experience on on those cruises and on 65 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:50,879 the ships and on the deployment is is 66 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:53,360 great training for this but it is uh 67 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:55,200 it is quite different in a lot of ways 68 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:01,110 two years ago military times spoke with 69 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:04,480 terry verts and captain butch 70 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:08,080 wilmore about a future mission to mars 71 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:10,400 where do we stand toward that goal right 72 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:22,070 um we have uh i think a lot of the 73 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:24,799 technical capability and 74 00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:27,040 a lot of uh you know 75 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:28,959 good understanding of 76 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:31,040 what we need to do from a uh you know 77 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:33,760 physiological standpoint risk mitigation 78 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:35,200 i mean there's still certain things we 79 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:37,599 need to learn i think you know radiation 80 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:39,760 is a is a big factor 81 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:41,120 um 82 00:03:44,149 --> 00:03:41,840 but 83 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:44,159 you know getting us to mars i think is 84 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:47,519 more about the you know public and and 85 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:51,040 political willpower to do so because 86 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,239 um 87 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:54,480 even though it's something i think is uh 88 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,280 is quite worthy and uh for the expense 89 00:04:01,030 --> 00:03:59,040 and very important 90 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,040 to us as a uh 91 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:03,360 you know as a species to can continue to 92 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:05,040 expand our horizons it's something 93 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:07,280 that's going to be expensive and uh you 94 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:09,840 know we need the uh the support to do it 95 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:10,799 so 96 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:12,159 you know it's i think it's more of a 97 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,439 matter of choice than it is technical 98 00:04:20,949 --> 00:04:18,160 feasibility 99 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:20,959 tim in your recent spacewalk you had a 100 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:24,639 malfunction of your spacesuit 101 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:26,400 tell us what happened 102 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:29,600 was there any fear during that event and 103 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:37,350 you know i might have been the least 104 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:39,199 worried person out of the whole team 105 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:40,560 because uh 106 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:42,639 you know when you talk about water in a 107 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,040 spacesuit it sounds like a pretty 108 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:46,960 dramatic event and 109 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:49,120 the things that that we've done because 110 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:51,199 we've had this circumstance before in 111 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:54,160 terms of risk mitigation and the level 112 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:56,400 of water that was in the helmet was such 113 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:58,320 that i really never had a high level of 114 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:01,039 concern but i i know that the whole team 115 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,880 was uh was very concerned about the 116 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:04,960 circumstance one of the 117 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:05,759 the 118 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:13,120 had this problem before we've instituted 119 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:15,919 some methodologies and in terms of how 120 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:18,080 we get people back inside quickly and 121 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:19,600 the things we have in the suit that can 122 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:20,960 help protect us 123 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:21,840 so 124 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:23,360 you know i was never actually very 125 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,280 concerned because i knew we had uh lots 126 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:26,880 of margin and time 127 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:29,520 and uh i was so impressed with how 128 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:32,560 both the uh the ground team and uh 129 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:33,520 and how 130 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:35,840 my compatriot tim peake outside handled 131 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:38,400 the whole circumstance so uh i think it 132 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:40,560 turned out well i think hopefully we'll 133 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:42,080 understand better 134 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:44,000 what exactly led to the water in the 135 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:46,240 helmet but at the end of the day 136 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:49,039 we got our mission done and we had some 137 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:52,479 risk mitigation in place to help out 138 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:55,360 today is the 30th anniversary 139 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:58,639 of the shuttle challenger explosion 140 00:06:02,150 --> 00:06:00,880 can you check gentlemen give me your 141 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:02,160 thoughts 142 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:11,909 yeah i was in uh 143 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:13,520 college in 144 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:17,600 in 1986 and i was going to class and it 145 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:19,520 was lunch time and i typically would 146 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:22,400 watch the space shuttle launches and i 147 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:25,440 um you know saw what happened and you 148 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,680 know immediately 149 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,520 um you know pretty 150 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:31,440 much knew that it was a you know 151 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:34,960 catastrophic accident and 152 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:37,360 i didn't know the crew members uh of 153 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,520 challenger obviously because i was in 154 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:41,520 college at the time but uh 155 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:44,720 it was quite a you know a moving um an 156 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,440 emotional experience uh 157 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:50,479 you know for me as growing up astronauts 158 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:53,280 were were my heroes and uh 159 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:54,800 it was um 160 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,560 you know tough to see them 161 00:06:59,350 --> 00:06:58,639 lost like that on 162 00:07:03,270 --> 00:06:59,360 on 163 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:03,280 and uh 164 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:05,919 i feel uh you know honored and 165 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,680 privileged to 166 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:09,520 you know follow in their footsteps and i 167 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:10,400 think 168 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:14,240 that uh you know what we do in space now 169 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:17,520 is uh you know fulfilling their their 170 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:19,599 dream and carrying on their legacy and i 171 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,720 think uh 172 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,319 you know we need to just keep pushing 173 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:24,160 ahead and then you know trying to 174 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:25,840 achieve great things 175 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:26,960 and 176 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:28,960 you know on days like today think back 177 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:32,400 to to what they sacrificed 178 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:34,479 kim a few years ago 179 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:35,599 we spoke 180 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:38,080 and you weren't sure whether at the end 181 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:40,240 of the space shuttle program you would 182 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:42,720 stick with the program what made you 183 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:51,350 you know i think all of us that have 184 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:53,440 experienced spaceflight or even 185 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:55,199 those that are in the astronaut core 186 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:56,960 that are looking forward to that have a 187 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,599 true passion for this kind of work 188 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:01,120 and uh 189 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:03,520 both the passion for the the type of 190 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:05,280 work we do but the people that we work 191 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:08,400 with is one that is really hard to to 192 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,400 replace or to uh 193 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:12,800 to to duplicate and so 194 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:16,319 you know having flown once and then uh 195 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:18,240 having a delay in order to get back to 196 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:19,199 flight 197 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,039 you know to me i think probably the main 198 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:23,840 reason i decided to to try for another 199 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:26,080 flight was just the fact that i love the 200 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:27,759 people that i work with 201 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:29,199 i love the mission 202 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:31,840 and i think it's very very important 203 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:35,680 both nationally and internationally 204 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:38,320 on earth there's competitions between 205 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:41,599 nations in the arctic in the south china 206 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:44,080 sea throughout the globe 207 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:46,720 what makes space so different that there 208 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:49,200 is this spirit of cooperation 209 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:52,240 between nations in technology and in 210 00:09:02,310 --> 00:08:59,430 well i think it's uh you know a few 211 00:09:03,269 --> 00:09:02,320 things um you know it's a common ground 212 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:03,279 that 213 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,519 you know one aspect of it whereas on 214 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:11,440 earth you know 215 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:14,240 people you know stick a flag in the in 216 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:16,959 the dirt sometimes and say it's theirs 217 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:19,360 and try to uh 218 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,360 and and do and rightfully so i guess in 219 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:23,279 some cases you know you defend your 220 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,920 territory and protect uh your interests 221 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:28,160 but but here it's uh 222 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:30,240 you know been well established and it's 223 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:31,920 uh you know 224 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:34,160 an international agreement that this is 225 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:38,320 this is a a place for the common 226 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:39,279 uh 227 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:44,320 complicated and it's expensive 228 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:45,120 and 229 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:48,720 international cooperation not only uh 230 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:51,360 you know helps in in in those two areas 231 00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:54,880 but it also uh provides redundancy 232 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,800 uh redundancy in systems the space 233 00:10:01,509 --> 00:09:58,560 station has a lot of uh 234 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:01,519 redundancy because you know very 235 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:03,519 the majority of it was made in either 236 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:04,800 the 237 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:09,040 or russia in russia you know we have 238 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,480 different ways of scrubbing carbon 239 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,560 dioxide and producing oxygen we have 240 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:14,079 different ways of supplying the space 241 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:16,560 station with redundant systems and it's 242 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:18,320 you know critical that all that that 243 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:20,160 stuff works and if something breaks it's 244 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:23,200 great to have a backup and um 245 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:24,800 you know i think that's one of been one 246 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:27,120 of the uh the great parts about the 247 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,800 space station program is that we're 248 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:29,839 working on something that's very 249 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:32,560 important it's very uh difficult and 250 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:34,880 challenging and and we're doing it in a 251 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:38,000 international way that shows that we can 252 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:40,240 you know cooperate even when at times we 253 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:43,760 may have our differences on earth 254 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:45,920 well i want to thank you gentlemen both 255 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:48,800 for joining us one last thought 256 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:50,720 are you two going to be staying with the 257 00:11:02,949 --> 00:10:59,750 so 258 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:02,959 i'm at uh 10 remaining on this year in 259 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:05,440 space and uh to me 260 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:07,200 uh that seems like i still have a long 261 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:08,560 ways to go 262 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,000 and uh 263 00:11:14,069 --> 00:11:12,480 so i haven't really given it uh 264 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:14,079 an incredible amount of thought 265 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:15,760 certainly uh i have given it some 266 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:18,240 thought but not um 267 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,800 you know not what i would be uh i guess 268 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:22,399 willing to share 269 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:24,720 with you today but appreciate the 270 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:31,030 i guess uh all i can add to that is that 271 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:33,279 my horizon right now is about uh four 272 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:35,360 and a half months we have a ton of work 273 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:37,760 to do here between now and the fifth of 274 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,560 june when we come back home and so uh 275 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:42,720 i think we'll focus on the immediate 276 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:44,720 future and look what happens after that 277 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:53,910 and have a very safe trip home 278 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:54,829 thank you so 279 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,399 much 280 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:58,000 station this is houston acr that 281 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,200 concludes the military times interview 282 00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:03,200 thank you military times station please